我在课堂上向学员说,消费税报表(GST-03)的C12,需要用到的税务编号是ES及ES43。
关于外汇兑现的赚亏(Realized Gain/Loss On Foreign Exchange),我是建议采用ES43这个税务编号。
但是,当会计师们去执行时,发现一个问题,就是当外汇兑现的亏损 > 外汇兑现的净利时,消费税报表会呈现负数,如下图。
然后大家很在乎关税局的那一行字 - “cannot be negative”,于是忘了消费税的原则与概念。
于是,为了解决这个问题,有些人建议,采用ES43这个税务编号的交易,不应该出现在C12这栏。
关税局是不是每一次都对的?商家,又或者消费税顾问(GST Consultant)是否每次都是错的?
在参考马来西亚关税局的指南与邻国新加坡的指南后,我依然坚持外汇兑现的净亏(Realized Gain/Loss On Foreign Exchange)需要采用ES43这个税务编号,并且需要呈报在消费税报表的C12那。
看看新加坡如何诠释外汇净亏(Gain/Loss On Foreign Exchange),以及处理方式:
错与对的诠释:
外汇兑现亏损 (Loss on Foreign Exchange) = 622.75 (DR)
外汇兑现净亏 (Net Foreign Exchange) = 445.68 – 622.75 = (177.07)
那么,绝对等值 (Therefore, Absolute Value) = 177.07
外汇兑现净亏 (Net Foreign Exchange) = 445.68 – 622.75 = (177.07)
那么,绝对等值 (Therefore, Absolute Value) = 177.07
而不是 - 177.07(负)。
那么,怎样记载去消费税报表?
以SQL为例子,先设定,如下:
正确的报表:
正确的税务编号:
还有,正确的账目记载:
总结:所以,消费税的概念要清楚,不要因为关税局讲他们的系统有多强大,多先进,就怀疑自己的能力。
老师,
ReplyDelete就是说四月份开的单有foreign exchange gain/loss 的都要报在c12 正数值吗?
gain = positive figure
loss = positive figure?
而tax code 是ES-43, 对吗?
天空蓝,
Delete是的。
gain = positive figure
loss = drop 掉 negative,即:变成positive。
是的,ES43
您好,
ReplyDelete1)I had a negative standard supply figure that need to fill in field 5(a) of gst return, because of a cancellation of sales during the period. Does that mean I just drop off the negative sign when fill up the gst return?
2) if the answer is yes, wouldn't it be misleading.. Because positive figure may meant that Ihad made a sales of standard supply, but in fact I had a sales cancellation.
Thanks for your time.
jasmineapk,
DeleteIf you issue CN for your customer, by using SR as tax code, 5a & 5b both will show negative figures, to exclude the value and the gst, and this is the proper way.
You can't drop the "-"
Hi,
DeleteI get what you meant. But when I fill the negative figure in 5(a), it shown 'can not be negative' and I can not proceed further. Please advice.
Thank you.
jasmineapk,
DeleteHave to check with software dealer。
想请问老师。。
ReplyDelete如果三月的单,但是四月才给钱,四月才有foreign gain/loss,是不是需要报在C12呢?
谢谢您
天空蓝,
ReplyDelete这是3月的,不在消费税范围内。